Comments on: Agave Danger! http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/ Your Natural Health Critic Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:34:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: JP http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-7429 JP Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:43:23 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-7429 Thank you for your comments, MH. :) Xylitol is natural. It occurs naturally in numerous fruits and vegetables. Purified forms of xylitol are typically derived from birch trees or corn. It’s true that xylitol is toxic for dogs, but so is avocado, dark chocolate, garlic and several other foods that are typically health promoting for humans. The evidence for harm stemming from xylitol (in humans) is lacking, IMO. In fact, there have been some rather positive findings of late: http://www.healthyfellow.com/465/erythritol-and-xylitol-news/ Be well! JP Thank you for your comments, MH. :)

Xylitol is natural. It occurs naturally in numerous fruits and vegetables. Purified forms of xylitol are typically derived from birch trees or corn.

It’s true that xylitol is toxic for dogs, but so is avocado, dark chocolate, garlic and several other foods that are typically health promoting for humans.

The evidence for harm stemming from xylitol (in humans) is lacking, IMO. In fact, there have been some rather positive findings of late:

http://www.healthyfellow.com/465/erythritol-and-xylitol-news/

Be well!

JP

]]> By: Magickal Hummingbyrd http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-7428 Magickal Hummingbyrd Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:04:47 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-7428 *** Dear J.P. *** You said that you use a sweetener called *Xylitol* along with your Stevia! *** *Xylitol* is Deadly Fatal to ALL animals & cats & dogs & ferrets & birds etc! It is NOT Natural! It is a deadly Chemical! *** It is Deadly Fatal to them & I cannot imagine why anyone would ingest *Xylitol* or call it harmless & healthy! *** GOOGLE: Xylitol Toxic *** ~*~*~*~ Magickal Hummingbyrd ~*~*~*~ *** Dear J.P. ***

You said that you use a sweetener called *Xylitol* along with your Stevia! *** *Xylitol* is Deadly Fatal to ALL animals & cats & dogs & ferrets & birds etc! It is NOT Natural! It is a deadly Chemical! *** It is Deadly Fatal to them & I cannot imagine why anyone would ingest *Xylitol* or call it harmless & healthy! *** GOOGLE: Xylitol Toxic ***

~*~*~*~ Magickal Hummingbyrd ~*~*~*~

]]> By: chippy http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-5640 chippy Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:36:58 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-5640 the GI of palm sugars is 35 or less. It is safe for Diabetics as it does not spike insulin. and therefor also does not cause excessive hunger/weight gain - this is a fact. I have seen many articles questioning the safety of Stevia and that pregnant women are allegedly not supposed to use it, yet palm sugar is safe. I consider that to be the canary in the coal mine. As far as empty calories, there are only 10 per tsp, and it contains a significant amount of glutamine, far from empty. By the way I hold no interests in the palm sugar industries or any other related industries for the record. Please also understand that I’m not trying to be defensive or offensive in any way either, I am just looking for the best and safest alternative sweetener. I have no other motive. I understand that this is only IYO, but perhaps we can all have a more open mind and deal with facts as opposed to opinions. then draw from that. Then again.... this is your web site, and your party, All the best to you. thanks chippy. the GI of palm sugars is 35 or less. It is safe for Diabetics as it does not spike insulin. and therefor also does not cause excessive hunger/weight gain – this is a fact.

I have seen many articles questioning the safety of Stevia and that pregnant women are allegedly not supposed to use it, yet palm sugar is safe. I consider that to be the canary in the coal mine.

As far as empty calories, there are only 10 per tsp, and it contains a significant amount of glutamine, far from empty. By the way I hold no interests in the palm sugar industries or any other related industries for the record. Please also understand that I’m not trying to be defensive or offensive in any way either, I am just looking for the best and safest alternative sweetener. I have no other motive. I understand that this is only IYO, but perhaps we can all have a more open mind and deal with facts as opposed to opinions. then draw from that.

Then again…. this is your web site, and your party,

All the best to you.
thanks
chippy.

]]> By: JP http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-5635 JP Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:19:21 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-5635 Chippy, Please understand that I'm not trying to be defensive or offensive in any way. I'm just presenting my perspective. Added sugar, no matter the source, provides empty calories because it doesn't contribute any significant nutrition or therapeutic effect. Example: If you eat a bowl of blueberries, it will contribute some naturally occurring sugar. But it also yields antioxidants, fiber and nutrients. Isolated sugar does not. Also, any form of actual sugar cannot be low carb. IMO, diabetics do best avoiding any added sugar. This may seem an unattainable goal but it is possible. I can't really comment intelligently about the claims re: leaky gut syndrome and yeast without seeing the data which supports those claims. Be well! JP Chippy,

Please understand that I’m not trying to be defensive or offensive in any way. I’m just presenting my perspective.

Added sugar, no matter the source, provides empty calories because it doesn’t contribute any significant nutrition or therapeutic effect.

Example: If you eat a bowl of blueberries, it will contribute some naturally occurring sugar. But it also yields antioxidants, fiber and nutrients. Isolated sugar does not.

Also, any form of actual sugar cannot be low carb. IMO, diabetics do best avoiding any added sugar. This may seem an unattainable goal but it is possible.

I can’t really comment intelligently about the claims re: leaky gut syndrome and yeast without seeing the data which supports those claims.

Be well!

JP

]]> By: chippy http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-5634 chippy Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:36:14 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-5634 I don't understand, "trade off" ? what trade off is there with using a low carb palm sugar, did I mention that it also does not feed yeast? people with leaky gut syndrome can use it to their hearts content, as can diabetics since it's low GI does not spike insulin - the only "trade off" I can see is the cost, but I hear you can now get it in bulk stores at half price. it is not about getting amino acids, that was just a bonus, it is about having food sweetened with great taste at no consequence to your health. so I am not sure what you mean by "trade off" can you clarify? thanks Chippy I don’t understand, “trade off” ? what trade off is there with using a low carb palm sugar, did I mention that it also does not feed yeast? people with leaky gut syndrome can use it to their hearts content, as can diabetics since it’s low GI does not spike insulin – the only “trade off” I can see is the cost, but I hear you can now get it in bulk stores at half price. it is not about getting amino acids, that was just a bonus, it is about having food sweetened with great taste at no consequence to your health. so I am not sure what you mean by “trade off” can you clarify?

thanks
Chippy

]]> By: JP http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-5624 JP Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:12:11 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-5624 Chippy, I personally try to avoid all sources of added sugar. If I feel the desire/need to sweeten something such as hot chocolate or a low carb pie, I generally use stevia. Even natural sources of sugar tend to contain only minimal amounts of amino acids and nutrients. The trade off simply isn't worthwhile, IMO. Be well! JP Chippy,

I personally try to avoid all sources of added sugar. If I feel the desire/need to sweeten something such as hot chocolate or a low carb pie, I generally use stevia.

Even natural sources of sugar tend to contain only minimal amounts of amino acids and nutrients. The trade off simply isn’t worthwhile, IMO.

Be well!

JP

]]> By: chippy http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-5596 chippy Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:27:11 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-5596 what about palm sugars and coconut sugars, they have only approx: 3% fructose, 3% glucose, 85% sucrose, and are GI of 35. they are not refined and are sustainable, plus they taste really good, like brown sugar, no after taste. they come from the sap from the flower of the tree not the tree itself, they boil it down and filter it, and dry it, that's it, plus they have all sorts of amino acids and mineral content. your thoughts on these sugars? oh, they are expensive though in Canada like $12/lb but in USA like $6/lb because of import costs. I say it is worth it if the health benefits are true, the taste is better than cane sugar! what about palm sugars and coconut sugars,
they have only approx:
3% fructose,
3% glucose,
85% sucrose,
and are GI of 35. they are not refined and are sustainable, plus they taste really good, like brown sugar, no after taste. they come from the sap from the flower of the tree not the tree itself, they boil it down and filter it, and dry it, that’s it, plus they have all sorts of amino acids and mineral content. your thoughts on these sugars? oh, they are expensive though in Canada like $12/lb but in USA like $6/lb because of import costs. I say it is worth it if the health benefits are true, the taste is better than cane sugar!

]]> By: Mike http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-4399 Mike Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:26:35 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-4399 The Weston A. Price Foundation, Dr. Joseph Mercola, MD, and Nexxus Magazine have all written extensively on the agave consumer fraud, as well as the FDA having succesfully criminally prosecuted this NON GRAS (Generally Recognize As Safe), unapproved, miscarriage causing, red blood cell membrane destroying, falsely labeled sweetener, that is "hydrolyzed high fructose inulin syrup", per FDA, that causes obesity, cardio vascular disease, even at low levels, and is extremely harmful to diabetcs and any health compromised ingestees. Agave is not natural, naturally occurring, raw, organic, kosher, hala, or safe, period...it is a criminal consumer FRAUD. The Weston A. Price Foundation, Dr. Joseph Mercola, MD, and Nexxus Magazine have all written extensively on the agave consumer fraud, as well as the FDA having succesfully criminally prosecuted this NON GRAS (Generally Recognize As Safe), unapproved, miscarriage causing, red blood cell membrane destroying, falsely labeled sweetener, that is “hydrolyzed high fructose inulin syrup”, per FDA, that causes obesity, cardio vascular disease, even at low levels, and is extremely harmful to diabetcs and any health compromised ingestees. Agave is not natural, naturally occurring, raw, organic, kosher, hala, or safe, period…it is a criminal consumer FRAUD.

]]> By: JP http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-4340 JP Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:57:08 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-4340 Larry, It can be said that agave undergoes less processing the HFCS. But for all intents and purposes, the fructose component is the same. This would apply to any form of fructose but would obviously be affected by the percentage of fructose and other components that can impact fructose utilization - example: fiber and select phytochemicals in fruits and vegetables. Be well! JP Larry,

It can be said that agave undergoes less processing the HFCS. But for all intents and purposes, the fructose component is the same. This would apply to any form of fructose but would obviously be affected by the percentage of fructose and other components that can impact fructose utilization – example: fiber and select phytochemicals in fruits and vegetables.

Be well!

JP

]]> By: Larry http://www.healthyfellow.com/185/agave-danger/comment-page-1/#comment-4338 Larry Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:35:57 +0000 http://www.healthyfellow.com/?p=185#comment-4338 Thanks for the info. I have one question, though. Is the fructose in HFCS identical to that of agave? I know the fructose of HFCS has to process through the liver. Is this always true of any fructose? Thanks for the info. I have one question, though. Is the fructose in HFCS identical to that of agave? I know the fructose of HFCS has to process through the liver. Is this always true of any fructose?

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